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02 July 2026

#318 Candace Owens - The Most Sued Woman in American Media

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Myth Buster· 1

Myth Buster4:29:00

What she says she got wrong about Russia before visiting

Owens describes her recent trip to Moscow overturning her assumptions about Russia being impoverished, unsafe, or anti-American, describing it instead as clean, safe, and rich with preserved history, which she contrasts unfavorably with what she sees as neglect and disorder in American cities like Washington, D.C.

  • She expected Russia to be dilapidated and anti-American but found the opposite
  • She describes Moscow as unusually clean, safe, and historically rich
  • She contrasts this with what she calls visible disorder in Washington, D.C.
  • She connects the comparison to a broader argument about beauty, truth, and societal decline

Could not be more opposite. They absolutely love Americans.

Candace Owens · 4:30:00
#russia#travel#candace owens#culture

Hot Take· 2

Hot Take40:00

Her theory that Charlie Kirk was killed by a hidden explosive, not a rooftop shooter

Owens details the observations that led her to doubt the official story: his necklace breaking before impact, glass-like debris in the transport car matching a shattered microphone, no eyewitness to an actual shot being fired, and the fact his body wasn't burned or charred. She lays out a theory involving a PETN-based shape charge hidden in his lapel mic.

  • She noticed his necklace whipped and broke before the visible wound appeared, suggesting force from below/inside rather than a rooftop shot
  • Car photos showed glass-like ABS plastic debris consistent with a shattered lapel mic, not a bullet
  • She never bought the rooftop-shooter story because no one on a crowded campus reported seeing a shot fired
  • The mic was unusually placed inside his shirt rather than outside, which she flags as atypical audio practice

You observe something moving across his chest and then suddenly you see a wound here. And that was my starting point.

Candace Owens · 46:00
#charlie kirk#assassination theory#conspiracy#forensics
Hot Take49:00

Why she now believes Erica Kirk lied about the days after Charlie's death

Owens describes turning against Erica Kirk after noticing her eulogy centered Turning Point USA rather than Charlie the person, that she returned to the office within a week of his death, and that she was reportedly the one who initiated the call in which a surgeon offered a 'miracle' explanation for the bullet not passing through.

  • Erica's memorial speech pivoted quickly into a Turning Point USA donation pitch rather than personal memories
  • Owens says Erica returned to the office the week after the death and joined a Zoom call about 'Turning Point 2.0' days later
  • Owens says a source confirmed Erica initiated the three-way call with the surgeon and PR rep Andrew Kovett that produced the 'miracle' bullet explanation
  • She contrasts Erica's eulogy with Vanessa Bryant's, which she says centered the person, not an institution

There's no humanity in Erica's speech. She doesn't want you to think of Charlie as anything other than a vehicle for Turning Point USA.

Candace Owens · 1:20:30
#erica kirk#charlie kirk#grief#turning point usa

Explainer· 4

Explainer26:00

Inside the Brian Harpole defamation lawsuit against her

Owens walks through the defamation suit filed by Charlie Kirk's former security lead, Brian Harpole, explaining his claim that her commentary made him a public figure and cost him business. She lays out why she believes the suit is weak, notes he never responded to her direct questions before suing, and says the case will be litigated in Nashville.

  • Harpole claims Owens' commentary forced him to become a public figure and hurt his security business
  • Owens says she texted him four times asking a direct question and he refused to answer before suing
  • She stands by calling his security team's performance incompetent
  • The case has no court date yet but will be heard in Nashville

That's going to be a tricky argument considering I never spoke about you ever on my show until you did the show.

Candace Owens · 27:30
#lawsuits#defamation#charlie kirk#media law
Explainer1:40:00

How 'handlers' pressure dissenting voices, and her own experience with it

Owens describes what she calls a recurring pattern where trusted insiders position themselves as friends while pressuring someone back toward an approved narrative, tracing the tactic historically to Sigmund Freud. She recounts being pressured by Prager University's CEO and others to apologize after tweeting 'genocide is always wrong.'

  • She frames 'handlers' as people who present as protective friends while steering someone away from a position
  • She ties the gaslighting playbook historically to Sigmund Freud, citing the book 'The Assault on Truth'
  • After tweeting 'genocide is always wrong,' she says PragerU's CEO and others pressured her to apologize
  • She refused to apologize and says she still stands by the tweet

I stood firm on it and was like, no, I know what I wrote. I meant every word of it. Genocide is always wrong.

Candace Owens · 1:45:00
#gaslighting#media pressure#candace owens#prageru
Explainer3:49:30

The coordinated pressure campaign she says is now targeting Megan Kelly

Owens describes what she calls an organized network of paid bots and comment stalkers deployed against public figures who won't fall in line, including thousands of fake emails sent to event organizers, and says Megan Kelly is now facing this after refusing to publicly denounce Owens and Tucker Carlson.

  • Owens says organizers who book her are warned in advance about thousands of fake emails pressuring them to cancel
  • She claims a paid network runs comment-section campaigns on Instagram and Facebook against targets
  • She says Megan Kelly is now facing this pressure for refusing to denounce her and Tucker Carlson
  • She frames the pressure as retaliation for Kelly publicly confirming what Charlie Kirk told her before his death

It's all about creating an illusion of pressure and it's not real.

Candace Owens · 3:51:00
#megan kelly#media pressure#online harassment#candace owens
Explainer4:12:00

Her account of Freemasonry's roots and its historical opposition to the Catholic Church

Owens lays out a historical narrative, drawn from Nicholas Haggar's 'The Secret History of America,' tracing Freemasonry through Francis Bacon, the infiltration of the Knights Templar, and Adam Weishaupt's Illuminati, arguing the movement has been consistently hostile to the Catholic Church because it 'holds the history.'

  • She cites 'The Secret History of America' by Nicholas Haggar as her primary source
  • She traces a lineage from Francis Bacon through the Knights Templar to Adam Weishaupt's Illuminati
  • She argues America's founding included Freemason influence intentionally structured to be anti-Catholic
  • She frames her own growing interest in Catholic and Orthodox tradition as a reaction to this history

For something to try to destroy it that bad, for Satan to hate it that bad, it's because it represents truth.

Candace Owens · 4:28:00
#freemasonry#catholicism#history#conspiracy

Story· 7

Story04:30

Trump posted an AI Time cover mocking her looks — during her confirmation trip

Candace Owens describes learning that Trump had posted an AI-generated Time magazine cover attacking her appearance, while she was in Italy on the eve of being confirmed into the Catholic Church. She explains why she turned her phone off, shared the real (unedited) photo herself years earlier, and says the moment diminished Trump more than it hurt her.

  • The photo Trump's team used was one she had shared herself years earlier, from a period of severe illness
  • She turned her phone off rather than respond, prioritizing her confirmation trip
  • She argues the attack empowered her more than it hurt her, and diminished Trump's stature
  • She had genuinely forgotten about the incident until Shawn Ryan brought it up

I can't even believe that I forgot about the Trump thing.

Candace Owens · 04:30

I think it diminishes him in a way. You shouldn't relinquish your power like that as the president.

Shawn Ryan · 07:30
#trump#media attacks#candace owens#public criticism
Story08:00

The toxic mold illness that nearly broke her before she entered public life

Owens recounts a severe bout of candidiasis triggered by an HVAC mold leak in 2015 — head-to-toe eczema, hair loss, and debilitating brain fog that made her unable to think or write. She describes bargaining with God, a year-long recovery through an extremely restrictive sugar-free diet, and how the ordeal humbled her right before she became a public figure.

  • An HVAC leak caused a toxic mold/candidiasis illness with eczema, hair loss, and severe brain fog
  • Recovery required roughly a year on a highly restrictive, sugar-free diet since sugar feeds candidiasis
  • She prayed and bargained with God, caring more about restoring her ability to think than her appearance
  • She now views the illness as a humbling experience that protected her from vanity once she became famous

The only way to describe it is you can't think... imagine like the most intense brain fog you could ever have.

Candace Owens · 09:00
#health#mold illness#resilience#candace owens
Story53:30

The phone call where she recorded footage showing no blood on Charlie's shirt

Owens recounts pressing Turning Point's AV lead, Terrell, for the removed rooftop camera footage, his evasive excuses, and the FaceTime call she secretly recorded that showed Charlie's shirt crisp white with no blood. She describes the panic that followed, including a call from the FBI to Turning Point asking whether she had recorded it.

  • Terrell gave shifting, implausible excuses for withholding footage before agreeing to a FaceTime call
  • Owens recorded the call, which showed no blood despite the shooting, which struck her as odd
  • Turning Point's COO reportedly called her husband asking whether she had recorded the footage
  • This happened on the day of Charlie Kirk's actual funeral, which she found suspicious in itself

The first thing I thought that was so strange was there was no blood. The bullet didn't go through.

Candace Owens · 55:30
#charlie kirk#investigation#turning point usa#assassination theory
Story1:05:00

The Netanyahu phone call and the offer Charlie Kirk allegedly turned down

Owens describes a call from Benjamin Netanyahu to Charlie Kirk at a private dinner weeks before his death, in which she says Netanyahu offered to take Turning Point USA 'to the next level' financially, reportedly in exchange for Kirk publicly preaching free markets and staying off criticism of Israel. She says Kirk refused, and that PR rep Andrew Kovett later said Kirk's refusal cost him millions.

  • A dinner at Bari Weiss's house in early August included a call from Netanyahu to Charlie Kirk
  • Owens' source says Netanyahu offered to significantly grow Turning Point's funding in exchange for concessions
  • Erica Kirk reportedly downplayed the call as a casual check-in, which Owens says was a lie
  • Kirk had also refused to have Netanyahu on his own show, which Owens reads as a sign of where he stood

BB offered to take Turning Point USA to the next level. And Charlie said no.

Candace Owens · 1:06:00
#charlie kirk#netanyahu#israel#turning point usa
Story3:03:00

Meeting her husband and getting engaged 18 days later

Owens tells the story of meeting George Farmer at a Turning Point UK launch dinner she and Charlie Kirk arrived three hours late to, the instant certainty she felt, and how he proposed on a plane before they'd even had their first kiss — 18 days after meeting.

  • They met at a Turning Point UK dinner they arrived three hours late to due to a scheduling mix-up
  • Both independently told friends the same night they believed they'd met their future spouse
  • George proposed on a plane before their first kiss, 18 days after meeting
  • They have been married seven years with a fifth child on the way

I just knew he was my husband and I was right. So everyone was wrong.

Candace Owens · 3:13:30
#marriage#candace owens#personal life#george farmer
Story3:30:00

How she says the Daily Wire fired her, then sued her over Twitter likes

Owens details her account of being accused internally of secretly working with Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson to undermine the Daily Wire, being fired with a 30-page list of reasons (including a coincidental cash-register sound effect), and later being sued for allegedly disparaging the company through likes on Twitter.

  • She says she was accused of a conspiracy to bring down the Daily Wire with Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson
  • Her termination letter reportedly cited dozens of reasons, including an unrelated cash-register sound effect on another show
  • The company later sued her, arguing her Twitter likes constituted disparagement under her exit agreement
  • She says the company publicly claimed record subscriber growth after her exit while suing her for alleged harm to subscribers

They wanted millions of dollars for my likes, literally my likes on Twitter.

Candace Owens · 3:39:00
#daily wire#lawsuits#candace owens#media industry
Story3:41:30

What she says happened to Brett Cooper after leaving the Daily Wire

Owens describes what she calls a pattern of the Daily Wire's former co-CEO using arbitration lawsuits to control departing talent, including suing Brett Cooper over a blue shirt worn on her exit announcement and allegedly recruiting her best friend away with a large pay offer to cause her distress.

  • Owens says the company sued Brett Cooper over wearing a blue shirt tied to a fan comment about NDAs
  • She says the co-CEO offered Cooper's best friend a large sum to work for the company after Cooper's departure
  • Owens says she herself was threatened with a $300K penalty for publicly defending Cooper and was prepared to pay it
  • She frames these arbitration suits as a form of legal control that keeps former employees tied up in disputes

It's a legal form of stalking... he'll never let you leave sort of a thing.

Candace Owens · 3:47:30
#daily wire#brett cooper#lawsuits#media industry